Just so we're clear, the letter by Polidoro posted above was NOT in reply to the article posted as the head of this thread. Shoshana
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KingDumb Halls Want Court Order To Keep Pedophile Documents Secret!
by Country Girl incongregations want court order .
by jim mcbride.
jehovah's witnesses congregations in amarillo and dumas are seeking a court order protecting them from releasing documents in a lawsuit filed by a woman who claims a former church elder sexually abused her.
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KingDumb Halls Want Court Order To Keep Pedophile Documents Secret!
by Country Girl incongregations want court order .
by jim mcbride.
jehovah's witnesses congregations in amarillo and dumas are seeking a court order protecting them from releasing documents in a lawsuit filed by a woman who claims a former church elder sexually abused her.
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In general, I am in favor of the "priest penitent" privilege. However, in this case,there are facts that lead the reader to infer that this was not a "confession" situation, but more of an employee disciplinary situation. There is a huge difference, when one congregation's leadership knows that a member is prone to dangerous conduct, and says nothing to a new congregation. It is another when it knows that one of the organizationally appointed representatives and leaders actually commits such acts, or has in the past, and reassigns him to cover up criminal conduct. By sending him off to other congregations without a clear indications that he was a danger, and they knew it, the first congregation becomes liable for his negligent acts. As an elder, this guy was basiclaly an employee, making his "employers" (the local congregations, and the WBTS) liable for their negligence by placing him in his positions of leadership. This legal theory is called "respondeat superior". Torts was last year though, today I need to study evidence...Is this admissible? (I think so, but won't bore you with the analysis) Shoshana
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Aaaannnnndddd I'm spent......
by safe4kids init has been accomplished, it's over, done, kaput.
a chapter of my life that has lasted 5 and 1/2 years has reached its final page and the book is now closed.
(no, i'm not talking about my sex life, that's been more than...erm, well, never mind).
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I am a bit biased about the power of education, being a teacher, and all, but I get very emotional when I hear about someone earning a degree. This is the most spectacular accomplishment in your life thus far, and it is incredibly impressive. What I am most impressed with is the example you have set for your children that education is goal than can, and should be reached. Education grants a person the power of choices, and more choices is definitely better than no choices. Congratulations, and may all your dreams come true!!! Shoshana
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Mazel Tov me
by La Capra inon top everything else, i finished my conversion.
i am officially jewish.
it was a far more meaningful ritual than anything the jw baptism had to offer.
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The Jewish faith has always accepted converts. I myself worked with two rabbis in my locale, one was reform, the other was conservative. My beit din (court) was presided by three reform rabbis. When I was in my early twenties, I embarked on this process for the first time (just after leaving JWs), and found myself on the phone with an orthodox rabbi. Being young, naive, and very busy with college and starting my career, I only did enough research to know that I could never live an orthodox life. I had already escaped one high control group. I wasn't about to trade it for another. I should have gotten a second opinion right then and there, but I was operating on a basic assumption that ALL jews only considered orthodox conversions to be real. When I reconsidered it last year, I learned I could convert in a reform or conservative tradition, and not feel I was converting to anything but Judaism. The local Chabad boys (cuz one never sees the Chabad "girls") weren't too happy about it, but the conservative congregation has accepted me wholeheartedly as has the local reform congregation (which I consider my home base), so blatantly named up above by a fellow poster. I don't think that it is a coincidence that JWs are drawn to Judaism. I have called the Jehovah's Witnesses a Jewish apologist cult for many years now. There is something innately familiar about it, but oh so much more spiritual, fun, life-affirming and respectful. Aack, I must get back to studying Evidence. Thanks everyone. Shoshana
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JW Prep Schools?!
by imallgrowedup ini was just reading another thread that mentioned something that knocked me over!
this thread mentions the existence of jw prep schools!
can anyone enlighten me on this topic?
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One of these such schools takes horrid advantage of my mother. She is a legally credentialed teacher and is "on staff" of one of these "we are not a home school" corporations. She spends hours on end grading work of kids, getting paid hardly anything so that the school can say a "credentialed" teacher is the one doing the work. The work arrives daily by mail from all over the country, and the kids have learned it on their own "at home." However, what she does can be done by any conscientious sophomore in high school, using the teacher's edition of the book. All she does is score it. She is called a teacher, but she is really just a "reader." As a professional educator myself, I am offended by the value she has put on her fabulous education and experience. She is selling it for practically nothing. As Suze Orman says, "When you undervalue what you do, the world undervalues who you are." Shoshana
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Kingdom Hall owner is deceased
by DevonMcBride inhttp://12.40.122.125/fcp2.web8/0/parcel?parcelno=410001558003
here is a link to the deed for a kingdom hall near me.
listed as owners are 3 men, one is the po, another is an elder, and one is deceased.
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I just double checked in my handy dandy "asset locator" that the online legal research company sees fit to give to law students. It says the same thing that this link does. It's a little clearer, though. This Whelen guy is definitely the trustee...however, the other two guys, Eichler and Betz are owners. The deed does not say HOW they hold title, and if the actual deed as recorded doesn't say, a court would interpret it to mean they are 50-50 owners (I'm 98 % sure that's true in Pennsylvania). So if one of the owners dies, his share goes to his heirs, and that is whomever he left it to in his will, which could have been the other guy. The actual deed on file could also have granted a right of survivorship, which in my family we called "winner takes all" after a very nasty battle with my step aunt whose father died before my grandmother. There is nothing on this deed that grants ownership to JW congregation, only that a JW congregation granted it to them (for $1). What is not public record, though is who exactly is the beneficiary of the trust of which Whelen is trustoring. Additionally, this property was not conveyed into a trust (from what I can see-those are usually really easy to see, an owner conveying it into the "Eichler Family Trust". One could only speculate...Anyone know if there were any local "legal" issues in Huntington Valley PA around the time these elders got the Kingdom Hall for a buck? This looks like asset shielding to me. Hmmm. (and who says posting on this board keeps me from studying for my properties midterm....). I also checked "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Pennsylvania. They are on the deeds to about 20 pieces of property that immediately popped, usually as local congregations. Didn't run WBTS, cause we already know they own tens of thousands of proeprties in the country. Shoshana.
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What's the best way to cook a prime rib? How do I make yorkshire pudding?
by avishai ini've always wanted to try yorkshire pudding, i've always read about it.
prime rib, theres so many ways online, any suggestions?
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This is how my family prepares it!!! It's not just a meal, it's an event. http://houseofprimerib.citysearch.com/ Shoshana
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Mazel Tov me
by La Capra inon top everything else, i finished my conversion.
i am officially jewish.
it was a far more meaningful ritual than anything the jw baptism had to offer.
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"how did that go down..." just like the elders always wanting all the details. I was great at asking questions in response to their questions..."Don't you think it was a lot less disruptive than screaming at the top of my lungs 'keep your hands to yourself you perv?'" He laughed, got the point and let it alone...
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Mazel Tov me
by La Capra inon top everything else, i finished my conversion.
i am officially jewish.
it was a far more meaningful ritual than anything the jw baptism had to offer.
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6 o' 9...The elders that accomplished the grope in the pool? I didn't answer in my own words, I answered with my own knee, though....Oops, y'see I started to slide within seconds of getting baptised as a witness...I actually heard about it from one of my local boys the next week. Shoshana
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Mazel Tov me
by La Capra inon top everything else, i finished my conversion.
i am officially jewish.
it was a far more meaningful ritual than anything the jw baptism had to offer.
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On top everything else, I finished my conversion. I am officially Jewish. It was a far more meaningful ritual than anything the JW baptism had to offer. There was a Jewish court of rabbis and a triple immersion in a kosher mikveh. It was very solemn, private and intimate. I really feel like a new person, not like when I had to get dipped (and groped) to keep peace with my mother. There were many people involved whose roles were well-defined in making it meaningful and keeping me focused. And I hardly cried at all (well, not too much, anyway). And since I'm coming out, my picture....Shoshana